Under Pressure with Nic Staton

Building a Security Empire: Paul Beam's Story

Nic Staton Episode 22

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In episode 22 of Under Pressure, Nic Staton interviews Paul Beam, a former law enforcement officer turned entrepreneur, as he shares becoming a successful business owner, detailing the challenges he faced along the way and the lessons he learned about leadership, teamwork, and personal growth.


Tune in to hear Paul’s inspiring story of resilience and his journey toward achieving greatness.


TIMESTAMPS

[00:04:10] Starting a security business.

[00:09:29] Business sense in security industry.

[00:12:20] Connections and personal growth.

[00:19:55] ADHD and business management challenges.

[00:24:10] Learning styles in team training.

[00:26:49] Leadership and role delegation.

[00:35:13] Background investigations and opportunities.

[00:40:01] Business email best practices.

[00:42:27] Enjoying work without traditional constraints.

[00:47:25] Sixth sense of humor.


QUOTES

  • “I feel I'm going to end up being a connector. I can't think of a better word yet, but it just excites me: talking business, given business ideas, and seeing how this connects to that.” - Paul Beam
  • "You just gotta pick and weave who you actually intermingle with and how you intermingle with them. Don't get shiny object syndrome." - Nic Staton
  • “The second thing would be the background investigations. We have really developed and pushed them hard. We've come up with some packages. That opens us up to pretty well anyone in the world, and we can do them anywhere in the world. You just need a computer and the program.” - Paul Beam



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WEBSITE


Wet & Wild Pressure Washing: https://go.wetnwildllc.net/freequote


Dominion Investigations & Security Consultants: https://dominioninvestigations.com/

 

Beam's Alarm LLC: https://beamsalarm.com/

  



This is Under Pressure, a podcast where we dive into the untold stories of entrepreneurs and business owners who have conquered adversity to achieve greatness. And now, here's your host, Nic Staton.

Welcome to another episode of The Under Pressure Show. I'm your host, Nic Staton. Today's guest is Paul Bean. Paul, if you don't mind explaining to the guest a little bit about your background and where you come from and stuff like that.

Nic Staton

Sure thing. So, uh, my name is Paul beam. I grew up in, um, Southern Illinois, way down at the bottom. Um, for majority of my life, I wanted to be in law enforcement. Growing up, there was a very thin line between police and prison. I did a lot more stuff than a lot of the people I dealt with sometimes. And so until I got to be a police officer, I sold cars, vacuums, worked coal mine. I've got my CDLs, drove trucks. I did about everything. And then 2006, I got into law enforcement and I loved it. I worked, lots of times I worked several departments at the same time just to kill the monotony. I was trying to get involved in everything I could. I was coming in my days off usually if it was something exciting. And 2011, I had to see an ad on Craigslist. Somebody was looking for process servers. I thought, well, I've done that and it's extra money. So I got into that and it started paying real good. I was using my law enforcement money to pay for my taxes pretty well. 2000 and this probably, I think happens to a lot of us guys, 2016, 17. I dated, uh, I used to think I was Superman and I needed to save women. And, uh, dad, dad, the one that, um, hopefully broke the camel's back and really did a number on me, uh, couple of years before that. I was going to turn 40. It hit me hard. I had a grandpa. My mom's dad died when he was 45. She was his only child. I was her only son and the oldest. Apparently, that got in my head. I started going to church all the time. I really thought I was going to die. That got me into a man's group that led me into Order of Man and Ron Mechler. Um, back forward a couple of years, 2019, uh, I was around Order of Man. I found out about, um, Braun Stumann, Apex, um, Several of them guys, I started to discover and I started getting out some other people and whatever reason I've said, I'm going to get my own detective license and start my own company. And I saw him and did that. And officially I call it, we started January of 2020. Um, it's been great. Uh, last year, my, my father's owned an alarm system company. He was pretty well, the first one in the area back in 72. And so he had a little bit over 50 years. I was the oldest child, the only son, naturally, it should have came to me. I wanted no part of it. It did nothing for me. I was going to be a cop. Uh, we didn't get along that great. When it was brought up a year or two ago, I thought, you know, that really fits into kind of my vision of what I'm wanting. And so, uh, it'll work out. But at the time I made the dumb decision to buy a, uh, a family business and start the business and buying a business, at least that one was two totally different things.

Paul Beam

Right.

And so we're still trying to make it our own, catch up with things on that end. Uh, the other side has just blew up and there's so much more out there. Um, so our goal is we have a corporation, we want to provide all security services from personal bodyguard to background investigations for employment tenants to legal services, uh, canine security system, just every type of security there is. Uh, and that's kind of where I'm at right now. And I'm even, so I've, I've been doing this for, Uh, four, four and a half years, I guess now. And I'm really even kind of transitioning into a different role. Right. Uh, I remember even, Oh, what was it? I think it's two weeks ago, two or three weeks ago, I was down at apex and was having a meeting. I remember talking to Ryan and I really. So I tell her by law enforcement security, I grew up fire department, all that is my back. I know all that stuff, but the business connected to other business owners, promoting them and acting them to somehow we know, um, that's what really excites me. And I, I feel I'm going to end up being. A connector, I can't think of a better word yet, but it just excites me is, um, talking business, um, given business ideas and seeing how this connects to that, you know? Right.

Sounds like you got a lot and a lot just fell into your plate out of nowhere.

Yeah, it's definitely, there's a lot that. Uh, I, God has showed me the last three or four years. Why I am the way I am. Right. I always, I had a lot of good jobs, but if I had worked nine to five Monday and Friday, every day, I couldn't do it. I'd be out of here. But this year it's 24 seven, you know? Right. And I'm kind of figuring me out and I'm figuring out that I have a really good business sense. And there are some things I went to, they were testing for some of the positions like security, PI, things like that. for the state today. And I'd been wanting to go up there for a couple of years and do some recruiting, you know, so I finally, I was able to make it up this year and nobody has ever done that before. And it blows my mind. It's not, I'm not a genius. It's not that intricate of an idea. You know, you have the people that are experienced going to take a test at one place. Go talk to him, you know? Right. And, um, so I think I've been pretty lucky on, um, I don't get tunnel vision. Um, I always think I have a good tendency to think a big picture, I guess.

You have to, if you don't think of the big picture, then you don't continue to chase the, the trail.

Exactly. I know one thing in this industry, the security, I'll be 49 this month. I am a young guy in this industry with the alarms and the detectives. When we first started, the first company was Dominion Investigations. Real quickly, I hated the word investigations. I felt like a pigeon hogus. Right. Oh, um, the, one of the first things we did was we joined a chamber. We joined the, um, Broadway club. We do a lot of charities. We sponsor events at our ball field or the golf course or whatever commercials, if things like that, I don't see other security companies do that. And I don't know why. There's a little, there's a, uh, a little bit of a secrecy to the whole thing. Yeah. A business is a business, you know?

Yeah. I'm surprised that there's not more people out there doing it, but I mean, shit, I would jump on board if you've got the idea, run with it.

Yeah. That's what I was telling one of my managers today. I said, look, we may end up being the trailblazer on a bunch, bunch of things, you know, and that's, that's all right. Right. I don't, I don't like doing what everybody else is doing. I have a hard time following instructions. I just, I feel like God's made the plan. I just, I'm just taking the steps and, um, learning how to get there quicker than what I have been, you know.

And thinking outside of the box where everybody else is running in the same, running the same path, you're, you're, uh, you're on the outside of them.

Definitely. And I know like in our area, um, I used to, I couldn't stay in Southern Illinois. There, there's nothing here. I always wanted to move away. And I started my own company. I was like, it was just a mind flip of us. Like, Oh, look out. There's nothing here except us. Right. But I had no intentions of staying at Southern Illinois. You know, I don't go, um, but I do know I've got some places I want to get to and we'll see how it happens.

You know, Hey, if there's a will, there's a way.

That is true. And there's so much of this that, well, you know, I do, and that's probably, I'm assuming one, the reason you joined apex is the connections, you know, that and seeing other people doing, doing well and stuff like that.

And I honestly just picked up off of the builder machine really quick. Yeah. And that's, that's what's really helped me out a lot. Um, all the jobs and stuff you see me landing is all because of pretty much building the machine.

Yeah. And so I, I looked into apex. Oh, I think I went to the MDM like three, three years or so.

That was the best, the best times was three years ago.

Well, I've told rods.

I, or two years ago, I think it was or something.

Maybe the MC, we just didn't click. Um, you know, how do you like, um, who's the guy always you joined a man? There was a big famous, uh, uh, speaker. Everybody loves John something. I can't think of his name.

I think.

I think he sounds like Nelson Chalkboard. I can't stand that guy, you know. David Goggins, I connect with him real good, but other people can't, you know. Right. Yeah.

There's certain people you're not going to, you don't even want to listen to. And then certain people really connect with, it's just, you know, that's just how it's going to be with anything.

It is. And I believe everything has a purpose. And at that time I was working more on me where three or four years later, me and the company is, we're pretty well the same almost. And so it was when I went to talk to, um, it was actually Eric was at the office then back February. Uh, there's a, another meeting I went to while I was down there. I came to him, I talked to him. Uh, it made perfect sense, you know, at the time where a couple of years ago, it was a totally different situation, I guess, you know,

Right. Yeah. I mean, that whole thing has done nothing but help me out tremendously. Um, there's been some downfalls with, with the group, but other than that, yeah, I, I, um, that happens with everything. You just gotta pick and weave who you actually enter, intermingle with and how you intermingle with them. Don't get shiny object syndrome.

And it's kind of cool to see Ryan or any, um, anybody in a leader position position go through struggles like we do.

And, um, we very transparent pretty much with, with a lot of the stuff that happens. So that's like, um, I learned a lot about, by the way that they, they do things. But at the same time, you learn a lot of what not to do as well too. Because of people speaking out like that and showing their ups and downs. Yes. So I don't knock anybody on what they actually got going on because at the end of the day, I'm learning from, I'm learning from it all.

Yeah. We learn what to do or learn what not to do.

Right. That's like what I made that post yesterday or whatever about my guys, you know, I'm out there asking my guys in the field, all kinds of different questions and stuff like that. And, you know, yeah, I'm probably helping them a lot out there, but at the same time, they don't understand how much they're actually helping me, uh, by communicating with me and letting me know things. Cause I'm learning, I'm learning every day as well, too. I don't know at all.

Well, that's where I have never been. A leader. I hate the word boss.

Uh, that's one thing I fucking hate the most too, is somebody calling me boss and shit like that, man. It's like, dude, I'm not, I just owner owner.

I could deal with boss.

Hey boss. Hey boss. I'm like, man, shut the fuck up with that shit.

Yeah. And most of them, when they say it, it's. They say it. Okay. It's just the fact, you know, it's like, um, to me, it sounds disrespectful. Does it? Okay. When they said to me, it sounds it's, it's not the fact they're saying it just like they should. It's just the fact that I hate that word, you know, um, like, dude, I'm, I'm,

I'm not your boss.

I'm your fucking, I'm the owner. Yeah. You know, it sounds to me, that sounds better. And you know, I've, everything I've done, a lot of the stuff I've done on my own, you know, um, I was a single, single parent. I was a single foster parent of a niece and nephew for a year and a half. Um, I've done so much shit on my own. It's hard for me to. tell other people what to do. I'm really learning as I go and the team has been verbal with me and, uh, talking about like delegating and getting out of the office. And then at the same time, I find, uh, was Dan Martell actually got my audible going again yesterday and download his book, um, buy back your time.

I love that audible man. I listened to that thing all the time. I've actually probably gone all the way through it four or five times and continue going back and listening to it, especially when I'm out on bike rides and stuff.

I, uh, the girls helped me discover this year that I've got ADHD apparently. And, um, I have never been good at.

Schedule routine, any of that, my VA actually put me on a schedule and trying to tell her all this stuff, man. There's a lot of times I still forget and I'm trying to register it all in my head. It's like, Nic, it's better for you to have all this on an actual schedule than in your damn head. Cause you're forgetting it all the time, but I don't know.

I've been talking to Corey and Titan, and I think we've got narrowed down, but I'm getting a VA. I know my issues, how to conquer them or how to How to get them to work for me, because they're not going to go away. I don't want a medicine that just knocks me out. But there's things that have to be done. you know, God gave me a big head, but that thing is full. I call, I've got, I call it a carousel spinning around every once in a while, an ideal jump off. I'll spin it out and then it jumps back on the carousel and few months later, come off again, you know? Right. And it, it gets exhausting sometimes. Um, And I've got, I mean, no books, calendars, schedules, alarms. Um, I I've tried everything and I'm really looking at figuring out what I am terrible at and let somebody else take care of it. Figuring out the things that really just irritate me and trying to avoid them. Um,

Offload the small shit. A small shit's not worth your time. You need to be focusing on the bigger stuff.

And left lane drivers, man, though.

It's hard to let go, man. It's the hardest thing. It's the hardest part. Letting go.

Left lane drivers, they, uh, they call my name, you know? Um, yeah.

What's the hardest part of your business?

Woo.

Really, it's all with me and what I was just talking about is putting the plan down on paper and so I could share it with the team. That's been the hardest thing so far. Um, there's been times that we've got together to say, we need to do this and we start doing it. And then everything else comes up, you know, um, taking my hands off as not, if I have the right people in there, it's been pretty easy.

You have SOPs in place and all of that so that they can actually go back and do everything that you do. Do you have all of that?

Yes and no. We've made some SOPs, but not like I want them.

You need to have somebody that's like a photographer or something. So that's pretty much what I did is I had somebody that was a camera guy and he came behind. literally everything about my truck is all on on video to where they can start stuff know how to run things and all of that so i would just turn around and whether you've got to make loom videos whatever it is if you're doing mostly stuff at the computer i would just make loom videos and that'd be the easiest and it would be just like this and you would have like a little picture up here but then You would have the computer stuff down here and the mouse would actually show up on there and you're talking and explaining to them, Hey, I'm going over here and I'm going to click on this and then I'm going to turn around and go down here and I'm going to click on this. And that's how I have to explain to my VA. If I don't, if I don't make loom videos and stuff like that, then dude tried to tell her, uh, over the phone or trying to tell her in text messages what to do. It doesn't get done nearly as fast as if she had a Loom video because she's a visual learner. So you've got to think, not everybody is going to learn the same way as you. And you can't expect them to do what you do. So if you can find somebody that does 80% of what you're doing in a certain task, then that's a person that is suited for that task. But they have to earn what I, what I like to say is they earn their positions. You bring them on, then you turn around and you find out where their strong points are, where their weaknesses are, and then put them in position.

Yeah. Um, we, a lot of the procedures and things have been developed, um, have been. probably at least 50, 50, if not more. Like my office manager, she'd been with me a couple of years. And so when I just started out and we started this, how we were doing things. And as she went along, she improved it. And we had another girl that came in and she improved some things. Um, it's funny cause there's every once in a while there'll be times that they'll be out of the office or whatever, and I'll be there and I'm like, oh crap. I got to remember how I do this or wherever, you know.

Even have them, even have them make SOPs of the tasks that they do as well, too. This is the same conversation that I had with another business owner the other day on the phone is that they're, they're kind of frustrated with having to constantly hire people and not being able to keep anybody and stuff like that, which you don't really have that problem, but. Uh, what Dan Martell and all of them teach is basically you finding who your a players are, who your B players are, C players, stuff like that. Eventually you want to wing out all those C players and just keep your A's and B's and you're hoping that your B's move to A's. And then eventually you have, you know, a good group of A's on your team, but, um, I don't even know where I was even going with that.

I call them my chiefs and my Indians. I've got the guys that just want to go out there and do work and they're content. Then I've got the other guys that are more interested and want to get in some type of leadership or ownership with the company.

So then do this. Ha get them to make SOPs of actually what their role is on that position. Yeah. And then eventually you can turn around and move those ones up that actually want to move up. And the reason that you'll be able to move them up is because you already have everything that they do displayed out to where you can feel that position so much easier than if you was to turn around and just bring somebody in. on a wing and expecting them to understand everything and to do exactly what, what the other person already did. But if they had everything explaining to them how to do it and all of that, I would like to think that they would pick up on it probably, you know, at least five to six, seven times faster.

Yeah. We, um, we actually have a meeting Friday, so my role is getting ready to be. Um, I'm getting out of the office. I'm going to be traveling, going to events, conventions, expos, whatever, promoting the company, selling the company, marketing. Um, I know me and Ryan talked about some security at events and stuff. So we've got me Friday where I wrote down every single thing that I could think of that I need taken care of without me being there at the office. And then I wrote down the things that I was going to do. I was, um, I'll promote the business and everything. So we've been. I mean, going down the right track, we just usually something pops up and we get sidetracked. Oh, and then like, right.

Never goes as planned, man.

Uh, no. And I, I'm just not a hundred percent sure how much of that is us not putting our foot down and say, no, we're going to do this. You know, I know you can't do that all the time.

I mean, sometimes it goes as planned, but a lot of times, man, you, I, I, I game plan all the time on projects and stuff like that. But one thing that we stopped doing is estimating on how long it's actually going to take us. Like there's, there's a, there's a window that I'll do, but like if guys sit there and say, well, how long is this going to take us today? Motherfucker. I don't know. Yeah. Cause as soon as I put an estimated time on there, it never happens. Never. And you get so frustrated and so upset because you, you set like a pinpoint time for timeframe for that to get done. Mistakes happen. Shit fucking fucks up.

Yeah. You lose tools, you gotta go buy new tools.

Something, man, I'm telling you. And the days that you put that that time frame on there, those are the worst days. I'm just like, look, guys, you're working the day. Yeah.

Yeah. And I've been pretty. Lacked on or slacked, I guess I should say on that where. The the alarm side. One of the guys, especially he's been with dad for 20 plus years. He's got more invested in it than I do. You know, um, Doreen, I have anything to do with it because my dad owned it. Right. I really, I told the guys, you know more about this than I do. Uh, so this is your show. Um, I'll give you the ideas I want. I'll go out, sell the product, uh, mobile, new product. I'll write the checks and things like that. But, um, I think with, I'm wanting to have multiple companies, so I don't need to have every single one of them makes a whole bunch of money, you know? So I just get paid and we make a little bit on that one. Um, that's fine with me. Right. And so I've really, it's been pretty good to have the right team, uh, that you're able to do that. And my goal is I'm hoping that they'll want to step up and we'll become partners or something, you know, so I could share the load. I've got a friend of mine that we kind of, we, we talked about starting this Back in 14, I met him, we were bouncing together and we worked at a police department together. I've known him a long time. He's, he's been, he's done some businesses and stuff. And, um, he is really, he's really taken off. He's, he's become the manager on that side and he's been doing a really good job there. And that. helped so much because it's somebody I know, somebody that is able to do the work, the labor, but also the office duties, you know. And sometimes that's hard to find. Even my dad, I was telling him today, he knew everything there is about electricity. He knew everything there was about alarm systems. Office work, bookkeeping, not so much. I'm a pretty even keel on that, I believe. I was never really interested in electricity. I know the basics of it. I can sell the systems all day long and security consulting, anything like that. But the business stuff, a lot of that get. The bookkeeping, I don't get into too much. The taxes and the strategy, for some reason, that has always excited me. Now, the employee tax, we are not friends. The, uh, the employee tech sticks up on me from behind and, uh, takes the van, Joe man, I, there ain't nothing I could do. I just ran a bear, you know? Uh, so that's always, we do, we have contractors with one side employees with the other. And, um, uh, I'd say benefits to both. I'm always trying to figure out, you know, I've got some of the guys that are contractors, they don't want to be employees. They know the benefits there, you know? And I told them, I said, well, if it benefits us, benefits you, then, you know, maybe we'll change. But until then, we'll just keep it like it is.

Right.

And so we're definitely trying to, I know we're looking hard for alarm technicians. And a week or two ago, I had a guy I went to school with our senior year. He was from Mexico. He was a foreign exchange student and he lives down in Matamoros. I sent him a message on Facebook and asked him if he knew anybody down there that had electrical or fire alarm experience that might want to move to the US, you know. They're not falling off the trees. Gotta try to find a value kid, you know?

Yeah. What are you, uh, what are you excited about, uh, for the rest of 2024?

Oh man. I am the three things really just kind of popped in my head would be me getting out on the road and doing what I really enjoy.

Um,

The second thing would be the background investigations. We have really developed and pushed them hard. We've came up with some packages. That opens us up to pretty well anyone in the world, and we can do them anywhere in the world. You just need a computer and the program. That's going to be a game changer there. Yeah. It's just a different, it's kind of like, um, uh, computer programming, networking work. You know, you have your work that's labor and you have your work, you're sitting at home on your computer, drinking your mocha latte and your slippers, sending your work out all over the country without leaving your chair, you know? Right. So that's gonna be a big one. And I would really, I'm really hoping and trying to get a office opened up down around Plano and Dallas-Fort Worth, somewhere down there, close to the Apex group. I've got some guys in the group I've been talking to. I've got a couple of guys that I know outside the group. And, um, it, it just, it's funny because even I went to that first ranch event that we had and, uh, I was talking to Ryan. Ryan apparently used to work for, uh, uh, ADT and sell, um, burglar alarms or security systems, you know? So I was like, well, he's got some experience in that. So he'd share some knowledge. Uh, he was telling me some of the things they did. So, um, I thought, yeah, it just, it makes sense, you know? Right. That's probably the three big things right now that just easily popped in my head.

Nice. Well, you definitely crushed this and I enjoyed every single bit of listening to everything that you have had to say. How can our guest. find you, uh, on internet, on, on, on, on the social media, how can they find you? Well, right now, um, or potential, maybe potential customer or potential, uh, employees.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I, uh, I mean, that's what I was doing all this morning. Uh, I was there and people asked me what tests are you taking? And I said, I'm not, um, recruiting, you know. And I wish, man, that really turned out good and I'm already seeing things I'm going to do next time. And so, of course, I'm on Facebook. We have Dominion Global, Dominion Investigations, and right now it's Beams Alarm. It will be Dominion Alarms on Facebook. They can reach us on our website. at dominioninvestigations.com, uh, beamsalarm, um, man, uh, bleeds beamsalarm.com or beamsalarm1970. Uh, we are putting together, uh, should be going really soon. I hope because I'll get past the cards out with it. Uh, my idea, we have a corporation Dominion Global Inc. Um, I want where we give out one website, one phone number, one business card. They go on that, but they see everything we do. And then that takes them to the other places. Right. I tell you one funny thing. This is one, um, One of the first mistakes I made real quick that I would not have thought of is our email for Dominion Investigations is dominioninvestigationsllc at gmail. So you guys are listening and are starting a new business. Don't put the LLC in there. Take into consideration the length of your email and your website. First time I typed it out or I gave it out, I realized I made a mistake.

Wet and wild LLC. Yeah.

Yeah, so I would love to get dominion.com. That one's going to cost us, and there's a group of attorneys that own it, so we'll probably got to pay some money for that one. But we'll see, you know. I've got my vision on what I wanted. Black Rifle Coffee Company, Uh, first form and there's a company in my hometown called the black diamond oasis third involved in everything. That's three companies. We have really followed my vision. I had a, I had a center corporation where all the main offices were at and everybody's there. Uh, A lot of what we do can be done remote and we don't have a foot traffic. We started doing fingerprint and that'd be a different story, but I'm trying to figure out, you know, I want a big nice office, but I don't know if I need one. Um, I don't know, do I need the bit, you know, do I need every Every place in one office or can I spread them out? You know? Right. So we're, um, you'll figure it out. Hey, we're young.

We got a long time to go and no sense in Russian puzzle piece by puzzle piece longevity.

That's what I've said. There's a, there's a big jigsaw puzzle on the floor and there's some pieces here and there's put together and we're just grabbing some.

There you go.

You'll get having a hell of a time doing it. You know, it's, it's been pretty cool.

That's all that matters, man. As long as you're enjoying it, I hope you'd find something else to do.

I don't, I don't like the word work or job.

No, I don't work. I enjoy every bit of what I do.

I do, you know, um,

I wake up and look forward to going to meet another person and solving another problem.

Mondays are my favorite days. A lot of the holidays I work just because I know the phone ain't gonna ring.

I get peace. I'll celebrate holidays. So I don't know. I'll pay attention to none of those, but my customers do. Cause I'll hit them up and they'll be like, Nic, it's Christmas. Nic, it's Halloween. Nic, it's Thanksgiving. I'm like, shit, I'm ready to work.

Well, I, I've got this out and I'm just about ready to switch things up and have her on Christmas where we want to, you know, Yeah. And, uh, yeah, I'm not too far behind that. Um, my family's all done. That's a whole different story there, but yeah, we're, there's some, uh, issues there and we've, it's always been jacked up, which probably helps me be the way I am too.

But, uh, I think a lot, I don't think any families are the way that they used to be very few. Awesome.

Yeah, it seems like a lot of us that I've talked to, the entrepreneurs, business owners, there's a lot of similarities. You know, we all got in a lot of trouble. We was rebels. We I think you may have posted not long ago about being the black sheep of the family.

Oh, yeah. I've always been the outcast ever since I was a little kid. I don't think I fit in anywhere on any any any part of any. I was like, I don't even look like anybody in my family.

I was the youngest grandson. My, my grandma really took to me made everybody mad. Um, I hadn't seen a lot of them in a long time, you know, but I know I'm doing the best out of, you know, I remember I, I, all my grandpa's passed away before I was born. And so I had two uncles, my dad's older brothers. One of them was Uncle Jim Beam. And growing up, especially Bobby Joe, he was the oldest. He was my grandpa. He was the closest, the oldest. And I remember when I had my niece and nephews and I looked at some of the things they'd done with them, I realized that I was a better uncle than the heroes that I looked up to when I was a kid, you know, right. Pretty good feeling.

Well, that's so, um, yeah. Um, I really need to go get something to eat. It's nine o'clock at night over this way. It's my bedtime. Uh, we're going to end it right here. I greatly appreciate you coming on Paul and giving us all this information and stuff. Cause I know it's going to help somebody out and. I hope so. Never know who will reach out to you.

No, you don't. I know we're we're one. I'm been wanting to get podcasts go for a while and I'm wanting to do it to hit up Sebastian.

Sebastian will help you out if you don't want to do it all yourself.

Well, I've been wanting to do it for number one marketing. Number two, I, I don't.

You're a hell of a talker. You'll fucking you'll do very well. You'll sit there and carry on and carry on and carry on.

I'm hoping that we'll be.

I feel like that'd be very good for you, even if you just sat there and just carried on by yourself and just talked about things that you have in your head.

Uh, I also, I don't, I don't, I'm really big on promoting our customers. I don't see that done enough, you know? Um, but also I have a buddy of mine that he's, he's been in movies. He makes movies. A lot of us have a sixth sense of humor. And so we're also just wanting to do goofy stuff that maybe only. Well, thanks. Funny, but whatever, you know?

Right. So, Hey, it's all content. Well, I'm going to go ahead and end this right here, guys. I'll catch us on the next episode. Peace.

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